Young Thug & Peewee Longway - “Loaded” (Youtube, 2013)
Finally a video that does some justice to Thugga’s madness.
Longway is short.
Why do you still answer these questions?
What is your guilty pleasure?
why dont you look at clouds anymore noz?
I don’t usually plug concerts here because I feel like we all live inside our computers now but if your physical form is in or around any of these cities and you enjoy rappers who can rap and crowds who are receptive to rappers who can rap then you owe it to yourself to attend this shit.
notafanofthissite asked: RE:RE: "charles hamilton and his connection to 'cloud rap'" freetexthost.[comgoeshere]/3wrp6nh4da
This is fair I guess, I should’ve added the caveat that I’ve only listened to so much of Charles’ output. I can definitely hear the structural similarities in the track you mention but it’s notably missing the fuzz and fog that defined “I’m God.” To me it just sounds like someone doing a bad Prefuse 73 impression.
Max might be a better point of connectivity given Clams’ Dipset fandom but even there I think his stuff landed closer to the sonics of Atlantic Starr than My Bloody Valentine or whatever. Though maybe those things aren’t actually that far apart idk I’m tired now.
Anonymous asked: What do you think about ghostwriting?
For years I towed the purist party line that ghostwriting is a never forgive punk move but the more I think about it the less I care.
Rapping is about asserting an identity first and foremost. It’s difficult to do this with other people’s words but not impossible - Eazy did it through the sheer force of his performance, Dre did it off the singularity of his production. Kanye merges both approaches. (In fact I wish Yeezus had more writers because when dude is writing his own shit it’s frequently close to pitiful at this point.)
Now if it’s a case of T.I. selling his throw away T.I. raps to Bow Wow and then tilting his hat for him in the video or Puff hiring Mad Skillz to come in and punch up his lazy punchlines on a song about champagne then those are different conversations and they end with me being like “hey that’s shitty don’t do that.” But if bringing another pen to the table is what it takes for a serious rapper to better articulate their vision then I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Really the “ghost” aspect of it seems more problematic than the “writing” side. If dudes are bringing in writers they should own up to that shit and credit them properly. That’s one cool thing about Kanye - Rhymefest’s name appears in the “Jesus Walks” credits, Ab Liva’s in “Send It Up.” These aren’t ghostwriters, these are songwriters.
Anonymous asked: Vince Staples goes in on "Hive". Can you recommend some of his good solo work?
He’s done a pair of tapes since then but his first, Shyne Coldchain Vol. 1, is still probably the best place to start. It’s got an appropriately retro West Coast feel on the production side and is a pretty clear progenitor to the sort of dead eyed short form rap music that comprises Doris. I reviewed it when it came out and lightweight wrote it off because of its brevity but then I ended up returning to it a lot throughout the year for that very reason. Maybe that says something about my deteriorating attention span but I definitely don’t have any interest in completing this thought.
Vince was around a little when I was working on that Mac Miller Fader article and he’s a pretty fascinating dude, equally smart, sardonic and street-aware in a way I haven’t encountered before. He’s like a young Ras Kass minus the Turkish butt sex conspiracy theories. As of now I think his recorded output has only managed to project a fraction of his personality but I could see him doing something great whenever he fits the rest in. I guess he’s signed to Def Jam through No ID now and that seems like a good fit.
(He also has a song with Common in the can and told me that Com is “rapping like he’s drinking again” now. This would’ve been the best news I’ve ever heard if I hadn’t already heard it twice before the last time, then again I could definitely see someone like Vince pushing out the old Comin a way that Kanye failed to.)
notafanofthissite asked: hey noz, i have a theory that charles hamilton was the first "cloud" rapper per se. how do you feel about this?
I suppose that depends on your definition of cloud rap. The first and only time I used the term (i invented it) it was to describe a song that sounded and functioned like Lil B’s “I’m God.” I have not heard a Charles Hamilton song that sounds or functions like “I’m God” so I would not say that he was the first cloud rapper. (In fact I try not to say “cloud rap” at all or even look at “clouds” anymore for that matter but you made me do it.)
Now if what you’re suggesting is that Charles was an early influence on Lil B and therefore could tangentially be linked to the cloud rap timeline then yes, sure, that’s completely true. He was probably the first rapper taking the whole hyper-productive and freeform bang your head against the computer monitor and share whatever brains spill out approach that B eventually ran with and B has definitely mentioned him as an influence in past. I think B eventually managed to do considerably better and more fascinating work in this lane, “cloud rap” being just one of the many fruits of that labor. So props to Charles for providing a minor motivational spark but no he did not create cloud rap, that sound came directly from Brandon and Clams and I guess Imogen too.
"I’m God" is over four years old now, btw. And more than a few boring underground rappers are still out here trying to recreate it and make it a thing.